Jincey Lumpkin Talks Women, Porn and Juicy Pink Box

There have been many discussions over what constitutes "porn for women" and whether that means that women want plot, realistic bodies, better camera work or something else. Juicy Pink Box often uses dramatic lighting, two-person scenes and "confessions" or "therapy" style scenes where women speak their fantasies while acting them out. Can you tell us a little bit about how your intended audience affects your directorial choices?

I've done a lot of market research on my customer base. I'm the first to tell you that above and beyond anything, I am a business woman. Therefore, I let customer demand drive my decision making process. So that means that Juicy Pink Box's product offerings are constantly evolving, because our customer's desires evolve.

I hate it when people say, "Women just like a story." Guess what? It's mostly men who say that, and they don't know what the fuck they are talking about. That just a gross oversimplification. Women's sexual mindscapes are vast and varied. Every woman is different.

However, there are certain trends in what women like. For instance, in the research that I've done, women seem to respond positively to porn that shows natural bodies, a true connection between the people on screen, and contextualized sex. A context is NOT the same thing as a story. For instance, at Juicy Pink Box we do not script stories. My concept was always to create sex like the sex scenes that you see in a movie. We evoke a sense of character, of time and of place by creating an atmosphere in the films. We allow the stars themselves to infuse their own sense of self into their characters. It makes for a much more natural experience over all, because they don't have to remember their lines. They are just in the moment, enjoying sex.

Have you seen Make Love Not Porn? The founder's idea is that the designations of "professional" and "amateur" porn imply that porn actors are the only ones who know how to have sex and the rest of us are bumbling idiots. What's your opinion of Make Love Not Porn? Is it socially important/necessary? And how do you feel their focus on "real people" and "actual sex" is similar and different from Juicy Pink Box does?

Not only have I seen Make Love Not Porn, but I sit on its board of advisors. Cindy Gallop, the founder, is a colleague of mine, and we're actually quite aligned in our views about sex, porn and sex education.

The implications you mentioned are, I think, incorrect. What Cindy believes (and I agree) is that hardcore porn has infiltrated our sex lives. Because we receive no sex education, either as children or as adults, we look at porn as a de-facto sex education. Well, that's a really bad idea in general, because most of the mainstream porn that's out there does not accurately reflect what people really like or desire on a deep level.

Cindy is a problem-solver. She saw this issue and said, "Ok, so I'm going to create a business model around allowing real people to showcase their sex lives." She calls them her "MakeLoveNotPorn stars". She's not saying porn's bad, or that there shouldn't be porn. She's offering an alternative. As I said, I agree that porn has hijacked our sex lives in a way. My intention with Juicy Pink Box is to create porn that more accurately reflects lesbian sex, but to present it in a very chic way. The women in my movies fuck like women really fuck, because the stars actually fuck women in their personal lives. We create an authentic sexual experience, and that's what you'll see when you watch one of our movies.

Cindy and I just have different solutions to the same problem. Neither one of us is saying that the other is wrong. It's like taking one road or another road to get to the same town. Some people prefer the scenic route; others want to take the highway. The important this is that we're offering an alternative to the massive amount of low-quality, shitty porn that's on the market.

Are you still feeling the itch to have a baby? Do you think you'll give up making porn if you have a child? Why or why not? Would you feel okay with your young child saying "My mommy's a lawyer and makes hot lesbian porn"?

Honey, I'm way past the itching stage at this point. My wife and I are full-on scratching. I was just inseminated for the first time a few weeks ago. I'm waiting to see if I'm pregnant.

I will not give up making porn simply because I have a child. Look, for me, what I do also has a social mission, because I think that the shame and fear we carry around about sex has heavy implications in nearly all aspects of our lives. Women are still simply not allowed to be overtly sexual without being called slutty or promiscuous.

If I have a daughter like I hope to, I want to teach her that sex is a natural, wonderful part of life. I will never be embarrassed about my job. On the contrary, I am really proud of myself both for overcoming my own sexual shame and for helping to spread a sex-positive message.

That said, I think that there are age-appropriate ways to talk to your children about sex, and I will be very careful not to expose my child to too much, too soon. Sex is always a part of us, even from birth. But when we are very young, I think that has to develop without a ton of intervention from outsiders.

Sexuality is a very individual thing. It's a part of your personality in a way. So, I will teach my child about love and respect, and I'm going to try my best to eliminate exposure to shame.

I will have the "hard conversations" that parents get embarrassed about because of their own shame around sexuality I will just try to treat it with a certain levity. It is possible to teach in a way that creates positive feedback.

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