Ellen DeGeneres Tells Howard Stern: Caitlyn Jenner Is Judging Gay People

When Caitlyn Jenner appeared on the Ellen DeGeneres show last week, Ellen's reactions were mixed, especially in response to Jenner's views on same-sex marriage. Calling herself a "traditionalist," Jenner admitted how she originally "was not for it," but said that her views have since changed. 

"I think, like a lot of people on this issue, I have really changed my thinking here to, 'I don't ever want to stand in front of anybody's happiness.' That's not my job, okay?" Jenner told Ellen. "If that word 'marriage' is really, really that important to you, I can go with it." 

But that word is important to the talk show host, who is married to actress Portia di Rossi and famously told then-presidential nominee John McCain when he appeared on her show during the 2008 presidential election, "Someday I hope it won't be called a contract, it'll be called 'marriage.'" 

Ellen appeared on Howard Stern's radio show today and discussed her mixed feelings regarding the interview with Jenner, who came out in April as transgender. "I said, 'You're wanting people to understand and accept you — this is like, really confusing to people. And you still have a judgement about gay people and marriage," DeGeneres said. "She goes, 'Well if the word marriage is that important.' It is. That's the word. We want the same thing." 

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